Re: low level protocol, implicit transactions , "idle in transaction" issue

From: Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: a(dot)mantzios(at)cloud(dot)gatewaynet(dot)com
Cc: pgpool-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: low level protocol, implicit transactions , "idle in transaction" issue
Date: 2026-07-23 22:52:34
Message-ID: 20260724.075234.1074150663970997670.ishii@postgresql.org
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Hi,

> sorry I forgot to mention,
>
> before the patch, disabling the query cache in pgpool the problem went
> away.
>
> On 7/22/26 17:32, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
>>
>> Dear pgpool team
>>
>> This is our setup :
>>
>> Quarkus (Agroal) -> pgbouncer-1.25.1 -> pgpool 4.7.2 -> pgsql 18.3
>>
>> We noticed that with no explicit transactions, at start up SQL queries
>> (application_name, search_path, etc), we experienced random 'idle in
>> transaction' connections from pgpool -> pgsql.
>>
>> Bypassing pgpool, i.e. pgbouncer -> directly to pgsql , the issue was
>> not there.
>>
>> So, bypassing the past excellent relation and collaboration I had with
>> you guys,  I got into the temptation to use our local AI cli agent
>> (against our local GLM-5.2-NVFP4 ) from within pgpool 4.7.2 code base
>> and try to see what's going on.
>>
>> So it gave it a thorough examination, looked at past issues, etc and
>> it came up with a patch. It applied the patch , compiled and
>> installed, and I only had to restart pgpool.
>>
>> The problem seems gone .
>>
>> I attach the patch. Please review and tell me your thoughts. I Know I
>> should maybe go the classic route, mailing list, advice from you, full
>> logging, etc till I demo the issue, but the time is pushing us hard.
>>
>> Thank you!

So your problem occurs only if following conditions are all met:

1) query cache is enabled
2) no explicit transaction is used
3) extended query protocol is used

Am I correct?

Regards,
--
Tatsuo Ishii
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