| From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> |
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| To: | Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at> |
| Cc: | Mihail Nikalayeu <mihailnikalayeu(at)gmail(dot)com>, Srinath Reddy Sadipiralla <srinath2133(at)gmail(dot)com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net> |
| Subject: | Re: Adding REPACK [concurrently] |
| Date: | 2026-03-26 17:28:12 |
| Message-ID: | 202603261718.ilrzi6bgv6da@alvherre.pgsql |
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On 2026-Mar-25, Antonin Houska wrote:
> I've taken a look, but not sure if the tuple slots help here. In
> heapam_relation_copy_for_cluster(), both table_scan_getnextslot() and
> index_getnext_slot() call ExecStoreBufferHeapTuple() ->
> tts_buffer_heap_store_tuple(), which AFAICS do not deform the tuple.
> Then ExecFetchSlotHeapTuple() is used to retrieve the tuple, but
> again, the underlying slot (TTSOpsBufferHeapTuple) handles it by
> copying rather than deforming / forming. Thus I think the explicit
> "reforming" currently does not add any performance overhead.
Looking again, I think we should leave this alone for now. The existing
code (looking at heapam_relation_copy_for_cluster) is somewhat silly, in
that we do a bunch of operations with slots, then we heap-ify the tuple
by doing ExecFetchSlotHeapTuple(), then we do the reform_and_rewrite
dance, which must deform the tuple only to immediately form it back; and
after we've done that, we make it go through the rewriteheap.c motions,
which again deforms and forms back (in certain cases).
This code structure seems mostly a relic from the time when heapam.c was
all we had, and I think we should rewrite it from scratch to work using
only slots. But not for this patch, and not for pg19, because I think
that's going to take some nontrivial effort on its own. So for REPACK
in pg19 I think we should just do the simplest thing possible, and do
the minimum amount of deform/form dance necessary to make this whole
thing work. I suppose that that's what the submitted code (v44-0008)
does, so I'm going to leave it at that.
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