Re: A recent message added to pg_upgade

From: Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com
Cc: alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: A recent message added to pg_upgade
Date: 2023-10-30 02:28:55
Message-ID: 20231030.112855.543619600865096192.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com
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At Fri, 27 Oct 2023 14:57:10 +0530, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote in
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 2:02 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-Oct-27, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote:
> >
> > > @@ -1433,8 +1433,8 @@ InvalidatePossiblyObsoleteSlot(ReplicationSlotInvalidationCause cause,
> > > {
> > > ereport(ERROR,
> > > errcode(ERRCODE_INVALID_PARAMETER_VALUE),
> > > - errmsg("replication slots must not be invalidated during the upgrade"),
> > > - errhint("\"max_slot_wal_keep_size\" must be set to -1 during the upgrade"));
> >
> > Hmm, if I read this code right, this error is going to be thrown by the
> > checkpointer while finishing a checkpoint. Fortunately, the checkpoint
> > record has already been written, but I don't know what would happen if
> > this is thrown while trying to write the shutdown checkpoint. Probably
> > nothing terribly good.
> >
> > I don't think this is useful. If the setting is invalid during binary
> > upgrade, let's prevent it from being set at all right from the start of
> > the upgrade process.
>
> We are already forcing the required setting
> "max_slot_wal_keep_size=-1" during the upgrade similar to some of the
> other settings like "full_page_writes". However, the user can provide
> an option for "max_slot_wal_keep_size" in which case it will be
> overridden. Now, I think (a) we can ensure that our setting always
> takes precedence in this case. The other idea is (b) to parse the
> user-provided options and check if "max_slot_wal_keep_size" has a
> value different than expected and raise an error accordingly. Or we
> can simply (c) document the usage of max_slot_wal_keep_size in the
> upgrade. I am not sure whether it is worth complicating the code for
> this as the user shouldn't be using such an option during the upgrade.
> So, I think doing (a) and (c) could be simpler.
> >
> > In InvalidatePossiblyObsoleteSlot() we could have
> > just an Assert() or elog(PANIC).
> >
>
> Yeah, we can change to either of those.

This discussion seems like a bit off from my point. I suggested adding
a check for that setting when IsBinaryUpgraded is true at the GUC
level as shown in the attached patch. I believe Álvaro made a similar
suggestion. While the error message is somewhat succinct, I think it
is sufficient given the low possilibility of the scenario and the fact
that it cannot occur inadvertently.

--
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center

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