Re: Time delayed LR (WAS Re: logical replication restrictions)

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: "Takamichi Osumi (Fujitsu)" <osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Time delayed LR (WAS Re: logical replication restrictions)
Date: 2023-02-13 16:47:12
Message-ID: 20230213164712.frhyc4hp7ece7zns@awork3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2023-02-11 05:44:47 +0000, Takamichi Osumi (Fujitsu) wrote:
> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 11:10 AM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > Has there been any discussion about whether this is actually best
> > implemented on the client side? You could alternatively implement it on the
> > sender.
> >
> > That'd have quite a few advantages, I think - you e.g. wouldn't remove the
> > ability to *receive* and send feedback messages. We'd not end up filling up
> > the network buffer with data that we'll not process anytime soon.
> Thanks for your comments !
>
> We have discussed about the publisher side idea around here [1]
> but, we chose the current direction. Kindly have a look at the discussion.
>
> If we apply the delay on the publisher, then
> it can lead to extra delay where we don't need to apply.
> The current proposed approach can take other loads or factors
> (network, busyness of the publisher, etc) into account
> because it calculates the required delay on the subscriber.

I don't think it's OK to just loose the ability to read / reply to keepalive
messages.

I think as-is we seriously consider to just reject the feature, adding too
much complexity, without corresponding gain.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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