Re: O(n) tasks cause lengthy startups and checkpoints

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn(at)amazon(dot)com>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Maxim Orlov <orlovmg(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amul Sul <sulamul(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: O(n) tasks cause lengthy startups and checkpoints
Date: 2022-02-17 06:59:38
Message-ID: 20220217065938.x2esfdppzypegn5j@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2022-02-16 20:14:04 -0800, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> >> - while ((spc_de = ReadDirExtended(spc_dir, "pg_tblspc", LOG)) != NULL)
> >> + while (!ShutdownRequestPending &&
> >> + (spc_de = ReadDirExtended(spc_dir, "pg_tblspc", LOG)) != NULL)
> >
> > Uh, huh? It strikes me as a supremely bad idea to have functions *silently*
> > not do their jobs when ShutdownRequestPending is set, particularly without a
> > huge fat comment.
>
> The idea was to avoid delaying shutdown because we're waiting for the
> custodian to finish relatively nonessential tasks. Another option might be
> to just exit immediately when the custodian receives a shutdown request.

I think we should just not do either of these and let the functions
finish. For the cases where shutdown really needs to be immediate
there's, uhm, immediate mode shutdowns.

> > Why does this not open us up to new xid wraparound issues? Before there was a
> > hard bound on how long these files could linger around. Now there's not
> > anymore.
>
> Sorry, I'm probably missing something obvious, but I'm not sure how this
> adds transaction ID wraparound risk. These files are tied to LSNs, and
> AFAIK they won't impact slots' xmins.

They're accessed by xid. The LSN is just for cleanup. Accessing files
left over from a previous transaction with the same xid wouldn't be
good - we'd read wrong catalog state for decoding...

Andres

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