From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se> |
Subject: | Re: Adding CI to our tree |
Date: | 2022-02-13 19:14:56 |
Message-ID: | 20220213191456.gdrhfu7vhvaifypd@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2022-02-13 12:13:17 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > This is exactly why I'm not a huge fan of having ci stuff in the tree.
> > It supposes that there's one right way to do a build, but in reality,
> > different people want and indeed need to use different options for all
> > kinds of reasons.
Sure. But why is that an argument against "having ci stuff in the tree"?
All it does is to make sure that a certain base-level of testing is easy to
achieve for everyone. I don't like working on windows or mac, but my patches
often have platform dependent bits. Now it's less likely that I need to
manually interact with windows.
I don't think we can (or well should) replace the buildfarm with the CI
stuff. The buildfarm provides extensive and varied coverage for master/release
branches. Which isn't feasible for unmerged development work, including cfbot,
from a resource usage POV alone.
> > That's the whole value of having things like
> > configure and pg_config_manual.h. When we start arguing about whether
> > or ci builds should use -DWRITE_READ_PARSE_PLAN_TREES we're inevitably
> > into the realm where no choice is objectively better,
> Right. Can we set things up so that it's not too painful to inject
> custom build options into a CI build?
What kind of injection are you thinking about? A patch author can obviously
just add options in .cirrus.yml. That's something possible now, that was not
possible with cfbot applying its own .cirrus.yml
It'd be nice if there were a way to do it more easily for msvc and configure
builds together, right now it'd require modifying those tasks in different
ways. But that's not really a CI question.
I'd like to have things like -fanitize=aligned and
-DWRITE_READ_PARSE_PLAN_TREES on by default for CI, primarily for cfbot's
benefit. Most patch authors won't know about using
-DWRITE_READ_PARSE_PLAN_TREES etc, so they won't even think about enabling
them. We're *really* not doing well on the "timely review" side of things, so
we at least should not waste time on high latency back-forth for easily
automatically detectable things.
> I should think that at the very least one needs to be able to vary the
> configure switches and CPPFLAGS/CFLAGS.
Do you mean as part of a patch tested with cfbot, CI running for pushes to
your own repository, or ...?
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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