From: | Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
Cc: | Daniil Zakhlystov <usernamedt(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: libpq compression (part 2) |
Date: | 2022-01-07 19:21:10 |
Message-ID: | 20220107192110.GG14051@telsasoft.com |
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On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 01:46:00PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:25:05AM -0600, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > Thanks for working on this. The patch looks to be in good shape - I hope more
> > people will help to review and test it. I took the liberty of creating a new
> > CF entry. http://cfbot.cputube.org/daniil-zakhlystov.html
> >
> > +zpq_should_compress(ZpqStream * zpq, char msg_type, uint32 msg_len)
> > +{
> > + return zpq_choose_compressor(zpq, msg_type, msg_len) == -1;
> >
> > I think this is backwards , and should say != -1 ?
> >
> > As written, the server GUC libpq_compression defaults to "on", and the client
> > doesn't request compression. I think the server GUC should default to off.
> > I failed to convince Kontantin about this last year. The reason is that 1)
> > it's a new feature; 2) with security implications. An admin should need to
> > "opt in" to this. I still wonder if this should be controlled by a new "TYPE"
> > in pg_hba (rather than a GUC); that would make it exclusive of SSL.
>
> I assume this compression happens before it is encrypted for TLS
> transport. Second, compression was removed from TLS because there were
> too many ways for HTTP to weaken encryption. I assume the Postgres wire
> protocol doesn't have similar exploit possibilities.
It's discussed in last year's thread. The thinking is that there tends to be
*fewer* exploitable opportunities between application->DB than between
browser->app.
But it's still a known concern, and should default to off - as I said.
That's also why I wondered if compression should be controlled by pg_hba,
rather than a GUC. To require/allow an DBA to opt-in to it for specific hosts.
Or to make it exclusive of ssl. We could choose to not suppose that case at
all, or (depending on the implement) refuse that combination of layers.
--
Justin
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