Re: Default to TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE?

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(dot)riggs(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Default to TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE?
Date: 2021-08-12 23:55:51
Message-ID: 20210812235551.GA25560@momjian.us
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:25:00AM +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > > I thought we found that changing behavior via GUC usually ends badly.
> >
> > Yeah. Changing from SQL-spec to not-SQL-spec behavior is going to be
> > one tough sell to begin with, even without the point that that's been
> > our behavior for over two decades. But proposing to do it via a GUC
> > is just not-even-worth-discussing territory. That would force every
> > wannabe-portable program to cope with both behaviors; which would
> > end up meaning that not only do you still have to take care to write
> > WITH TIME ZONE when you want that, but *also* you'd have to be sure
> > to write WITHOUT TIME ZONE when you want that. In short, the worst
> > of both worlds.
>
> All of which I agree with, but this wasn't a cute idea of mine, this
> was what our users have requested because of the extreme annoyance
> caused by the current behavior.

Understood, but the problem is that our users sometimes don't think
through the ramifications of their suggestions.

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