Re: storing an explicit nonce

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Kincaid <tomjohnkincaid(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Subject: Re: storing an explicit nonce
Date: 2021-05-27 21:00:23
Message-ID: 20210527210023.GJ5646@momjian.us
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On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 04:09:13PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> The above article, at least, suggested encrypting the sector number
> using the second key and then multiplying that times 2^(block number),
> where those blocks were actually AES 128bit blocks. The article further
> claims that this is what's used in things like Bitlocker, TrueCrypt,
> VeraCrypt and OpenSSL.
>
> While the documentation isn't super clear, I'm taking that to mean that
> when you actually use EVP_aes_128_xts() in OpenSSL, and you provide it
> with a 256-bit key (twice the size of the AES key length function), and
> you give it a 'tweak', that what you would actually be passing in would
> be the "sector number" in the above method, or for us perhaps it would
> be relfilenode+block number, or maybe just block number but it seems
> like it'd be better to include the relfilenode to me.

If you go in that direction, you should make sure pg_upgrade preserves
what you use (it does not preserve relfilenode, just pg_class.oid), and
CREATE DATABASE still works with a simple file copy.

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