|From:||Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>|
|To:||Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>|
|Cc:||Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>|
|Subject:||Re: Key management with tests|
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* Bruce Momjian (bruce(at)momjian(dot)us) wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 01:44:05PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > * Bruce Momjian (bruce(at)momjian(dot)us) wrote:
> > > Well, we have eight unused bits in the IV, so we could just increment
> > > that for every hint bit change that uses the same LSN, and then force a
> > > dummy WAL record when that 8-bit counter overflows --- that seems
> > > simpler than logging hint bits.
> > Sure, as long as we have a place to store that information.. We need to
> > have the full IV available when we go to decrypt the page.
> Oh, yeah, we would need that counter recorded since previously the IV
> was made up of already-recorded information, i.e., the page LSN and page
> number. However, the reason don't WAL-log hint bits always is because
> we can afford to lose them, but in this case, any counter we need to
> store will need to be WAL logged since we can't affort to lose that
> counter value for decryption --- that gets us back to WAL-logging
> something during hint bit changes. :-(
I don't think that's actually the case..? The hole I'm talking about is
there exclusively for post-encryption storage of the tag and maybe this
part of the IV and would be zero'd out in the FPIs that actually go into
the WAL (which would be encrypted with the WAL key, not the data key).
All we would need to be confident of is that if the page with the hint
bit update gets encrypted and written out that the IV counter gets
incremented and also written out as part of that write.
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