Re: BUG #16079: Question Regarding the BUG #16064

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, k(dot)yudhveer(at)gmail(dot)com, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: BUG #16079: Question Regarding the BUG #16064
Date: 2020-12-21 19:06:08
Message-ID: 20201221190608.GM27507@tamriel.snowman.net
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Greetings,

* Magnus Hagander (magnus(at)hagander(dot)net) wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:44 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > BTW, do we have a client-side setting to insist that passwords not be
> > sent in MD5 hashing either? A person who is paranoid about this would
> > likely want to disable that code path as well.
>
> I don't think we do, and we possibly should. You can require channel
> binding which will require scram which solves the problem, but it does
> so only for scram.
>
> IIRC we've discussed having a parameter that says "allowed
> authentication methods" on the client as well, but I don't believe it
> has been built. But it wouldn't be bad to be able to for example force
> the client to only attempt gssapi auth, regardless of what the server
> asks for, and just fail if it's not there.

The client is able to require a GSS encrypted connection, and a savy
user will realize that they should 'kinit' (or equivilant) locally and
never provide their password explicitly to the psql (or equivilant)
command, but that's certainly less than ideal.

Having a way to explicitly tell libpq what auth methods are acceptable
was discussed previously and does generally seem like a good idea, as
otherwise there's a lot of risk of what are essentially downgrade
attacks.

Thanks,

Stephen

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