Re: scram-sha-256 broken with FIPS and OpenSSL 1.0.2

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: scram-sha-256 broken with FIPS and OpenSSL 1.0.2
Date: 2020-09-25 19:13:15
Message-ID: 20200925191315.GB7199@momjian.us
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 03:56:53PM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 01:36:44AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> >> However, again, the SCRAM
> >> implementation would already appear to fail that requirement because it
> >> uses a custom HMAC implementation, and HMAC is listed in FIPS 140-2 as a
> >> covered algorithm.
> >
> > Ugh. But is there any available FIPS-approved library code that could be
> > used instead?
>
> That's a good point, and I think that this falls down to use OpenSSL's
> HMAC_* interface for this job when building with OpenSSL:
> https://www.openssl.org/docs/man1.1.1/man3/HMAC.html
>
> Worth noting that these have been deprecated in 3.0.0 as per the
> rather-recent commit dbde472, where they recommend the use of
> EVP_MAC_*() instead.

Would a FIPS server only be able to talk to a FIPS client, or would our
internal code produce the same output?

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