Re: recovering from "found xmin ... from before relfrozenxid ..."

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: recovering from "found xmin ... from before relfrozenxid ..."
Date: 2020-07-14 19:41:59
Message-ID: 20200714194159.ux4o34m5w4ymcaih@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2020-07-14 07:51:27 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:08 AM Peter Eisentraut
> <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > In the meantime, if you're wizard enough to deal with this kind of
> > thing, you could also clone the module from the PG14 tree and build it
> > against older versions manually.
>
> But what if you are NOT a wizard, and a wizard is giving you
> directions? Then having to build from source is a real pain. And
> that's normally the situation I'm in when a customer has this issue.

The "found xmin ... from before relfrozenxid ..." cases should all be
fixable without needing such a function, and without it making fixing
them significantly easier, no? As far as I understand your suggested
solution, you need the tid(s) of these tuples, right? If you have those,
I don't think it's meaningfully harder to INSERT ... DELETE WHERE ctid =
.... or something like that.

ISTM that the hard part is finding all problematic tuples in an
efficient manner (i.e. that doesn't require one manual VACUUM for each
individual block + parsing VACUUMs error message), not "fixing" those
tuples.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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