From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: valgrind versus pg_atomic_init() |
Date: | 2020-06-15 04:16:20 |
Message-ID: | 20200615041620.u2u6oo75nscc6j4g@alap3.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2020-06-14 18:55:27 -0700, Noah Misch wrote:
> Does something guarantee the write will be globally-visible by the time the
> first concurrent accessor shows up?
The function comments say:
*
* Has to be done before any concurrent usage..
*
* No barrier semantics.
> (If not, one could (a) do an unlocked ptr->value=0, then the atomic
> write, or (b) revert and improve the suppression.) I don't doubt it's
> fine for the ways PostgreSQL uses atomics today, which generally
> initialize an atomic before the concurrent-accessor processes even
> exist.
I think it's unlikely that there are cases where you could safely
initialize the atomic without needing some form of synchronization
before it can be used. If a barrier were needed, what'd guarantee the
concurrent access happened after the initialization in the first place?
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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