Re: [PATCH] Incremental sort (was: PoC: Partial sort)

From: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Rafia Sabih <rafia(dot)pghackers(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Shaun Thomas <shaun(dot)thomas(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alexander Korotkov <a(dot)korotkov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Andreas Karlsson <andreas(at)proxel(dot)se>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Incremental sort (was: PoC: Partial sort)
Date: 2020-04-08 15:02:30
Message-ID: 20200408150230.3pbn76mk3pppgl5e@development
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On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 04:08:39PM +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 09:54:42AM -0400, James Coleman wrote:
>>On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 9:43 AM Tomas Vondra
>><tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 12:51:05PM +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote:
>>>>On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 11:54:23PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>>>hyrax is not too happy with this test:
>>>>>
>>>>>https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=hyrax&dt=2020-04-07%2004%3A55%3A15
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not too clear to me why CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS would be breaking
>>>>>EXPLAIN output, but it evidently is.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks, I'll investigate. It's not clear to me either what might be
>>>>causing this, but I guess something must have gone wrong in
>>>>estimation/planning.
>>>>
>>>
>>>OK, I know what's going on - it's a rather embarassing issue in the
>>>regression test. There's no analyze on the test tables, so it uses
>>>default estimates for number of groups etc. But with clobber cache the
>>>test runs long enough for autoanalyze to kick in and collect stats, so
>>>we generate better estimates which changes the plan.
>>>
>>>I'll get this fixed - explicit analyze and tweaking the data a bit
>>>should do the trick.
>>
>>Looking at the tests that failed, I think we should consider just adding:
>>set enable_sort = off;
>>because several of those tests have very specific amounts of data to
>>ensure we test the transition points around the different modes in the
>>incremental sort node.
>>
>
>Maybe, but I'd much rather tweak the data so that we test both the
>costing and execution part.
>

I do think this does the trick by increasing the number of rows a bit
(from 100 to 1000) to make the Sort more expensive than Incremental
Sort, while still testing the transition points.

James, can you verify it that's still true?

regards

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Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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