Re: Berserk Autovacuum (let's save next Mandrill)

From: Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>
To: Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Darafei Komяpa Praliaskouski <me(at)komzpa(dot)net>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Michael Banck <mbanck(at)gmx(dot)net>
Subject: Re: Berserk Autovacuum (let's save next Mandrill)
Date: 2020-03-17 23:32:18
Message-ID: 20200317233218.GD26184@telsasoft.com
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 07:47:13AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> Normally, when someone complains about bad plan related to no index-onlyscan,
> we tell them to run vacuum, and if that helps, then ALTER TABLE .. SET
> (autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor=0.005).
>
> If there's two thresholds (4 GUCs and 4 relopts) for autovacuum, then do we
> have to help determine which one was being hit, and which relopt to set?

I don't think we came to any resolution on this.

Right now, to encourage IOS, we'd tell someone to set
autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor=0.005. That wouldn't work for an insert-only
table, but I've never heard back from someone that it didn't work.

So with this patch, we'd maybe tell them to do this, to also get IOS on
insert-only tables ?
|ALTER TABLE .. SET (autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor=0.005, autovacuum_vacuum_insert_threshold=50000);

> I wonder if the new insert GUCs should default to -1 (disabled)? And the
> insert thresholds should be set by new insert relopt (if set), or by new insert
> GUC (default -1), else normal relopt, or normal GUC. The defaults would give
> 50 + 0.20*n. When someone asks about IOS, we'd tell them to set
> autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor=0.005, same as now.
>
> vac_ins_scale_factor =
> (relopts && relopts->vacuum_ins_scale_factor >= 0) ? relopts->vacuum_ins_scale_factor :
> autovacuum_vac_ins_scale >= 0 ? autovacuum_vac_ins_scale :
> (relopts && relopts->vacuum_scale_factor >= 0) ? relopts->vacuum_scale_factor :
> autovacuum_vac_scale;

--
Justin

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