Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files

From: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and encrypted files
Date: 2019-10-03 16:52:21
Message-ID: 20191003165221.q63fedlb5wrcq4ri@development
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On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:58:55AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>* Peter Eisentraut (peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com) wrote:
>> On 2019-10-03 16:40, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> >> As others have said, that sounds wrong to me. I think you need to
>> >> encrypt everything.
>> > That isn't what other database systems do though and isn't what people
>> > actually asking for this feature are expecting to have or deal with.
>>
>> It is what some other database systems do. Perhaps some others don't.
>
>I looked at the contemporary databases and provided details about all of
>them earlier in the thread. Please feel free to review that and let me
>know if your research shows differently.
>

I assume you mean this (in one of the other threads):

https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20190817175217.GE16436%40tamriel.snowman.net

FWIW I don't see anything contradicting the idea of just encrypting
everything (including vm, fsm etc.). The only case that seems to be an
exception is the column-level encryption in Oracle, all the other
options (especially the database-level ones) seem to be consistent with
this principle.

regards

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Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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