From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at> |
Cc: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Sehrope Sarkuni <sehrope(at)jackdb(dot)com>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS) |
Date: | 2019-08-17 15:14:59 |
Message-ID: | 20190817151459.GB32736@momjian.us |
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 08:16:06AM +0200, Antonin Houska wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 09:01:05PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > > * Bruce Momjian (bruce(at)momjian(dot)us) wrote:
> > > > Why would it not be simpler to have the cluster_passphrase_command run
> > > > whatever command-line program it wants? If you don't want to use a
> > > > shell command, create an executable and call that.
> > >
> > > Having direct integration with a KMS would certainly be valuable, and I
> > > don't see a reason to deny users that option if someone would like to
> > > spend time implementing it- in addition to a simpler mechanism such as a
> > > passphrase command, which I believe is what was being suggested here.
> >
> > OK, I am just trying to see why we would not use the
> > cluster_passphrase_command-like interface to do that.
>
> One problem that occurs to me is that PG may need to send some sort of
> credentials to the KMS. If it runs a separate process to execute the command,
> it needs to pass those credentials to it. Whether it does so via parameters or
> environment variables, both can be seen by other users.
Yes, that would be a good reason to use an external library, if we can't
figure out a clean API like opening a pipe into the command-line tool
and piping in the secret.
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