Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)
Date: 2019-07-15 22:05:37
Message-ID: 20190715220537.ac2m5aobnjzoferb@momjian.us
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 10:44:34PM +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 03:55:38PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > The crazy seems more sane now --- "encrypt the page with CRC contents as
> > zero" (which we probably already do to compute the CRC), then compute
> > the CRC, and modify the page CRC.
> >
>
> Huh? So you want to
>
> 1) set CRC to 0
> 2) encrypt the page
> 3) compute CRC
> 4) set CRC to value computed in (3)
> 5) encrypt the page again
>
> That seems pretty awful from performance POV, and it does not really
> solve much as we'd still need to decrypt the page while verifying the
> checksums (because the CRC is in the page header, which is encrypted).

No, I was thinking we would overwrite whatever the encrypted output was
in the spot that has the CRC with the computed CRC. Yeah, sounds even
crazier now that I said it --- never mind.

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