Re: "WIP: Data at rest encryption" patch and, PostgreSQL 11-beta3

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Toshi Harada <harada(dot)toshi(at)po(dot)ntt-tx(dot)co(dot)jp>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: "WIP: Data at rest encryption" patch and, PostgreSQL 11-beta3
Date: 2019-06-14 01:14:14
Message-ID: 20190614011413.svqxbv2ajig2fupa@momjian.us
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On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 12:04:54PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
>
> What I'm talking about here is that it also has to be reasonably
> possible to write an encryption key command that does something
> useful. I don't have a really clear vision for how that's going to
> work. Nobody wants the server, which is probably being launched by
> pg_ctl or systemd or both, to prompt using its own stdin/stderr, but
> the we need to think about how the prompting is actually going to
> work. One idea is to do it via the FEBE protocol: connect to the
> server using libpq, issue a new command that causes the server to
> enter COPY mode, and then send the encryption key as COPY data.
> However, that idea doesn't really work, because we've got to be able
> to get the key before we run recovery or reach consistency, so the
> server won't be listening for connections at that point. Also, we've
> got to have a way for this to work in single-user mode, which also
> can't listen for connections. It's probably all fine if your
> encryption key command is something like 'curl
> https://my.secret.keyserver.me/sekcret.key' because then there's an
> external server which you can just go access - but I don't quite
> understand how you'd do interactive prompting from here. Sorry to get
> hung up on what may seem like a minor point, but I think it's actually
> fairly fundamental: we've got to have a clear vision of how end-users
> will really be able to make use of this.

pgcryptoey has an example of prompting from /dev/tty:

http://momjian.us/download/pgcryptokey/

Look at pgcryptokey_default.sample.

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