Re: Binary support for pgoutput plugin

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Dave Cramer <davecramer(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Binary support for pgoutput plugin
Date: 2019-06-04 20:46:41
Message-ID: 20190604204641.saj2mhevbist23hk@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2019-06-04 16:39:32 -0400, Dave Cramer wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 16:30, Andres Freund <andres(dot)freund(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
> wrote:
> > > There's also no reason that I am aware that binary outputs can't be
> > > supported.
> >
> > Well, it *does* increase version dependencies, and does make replication
> > more complicated, because type oids etc cannot be relied to be the same
> > on source and target side.
> >
> I was about to agree with this but if the type oids change from source
> to target you still can't decode the text version properly. Unless I
> mis-understand something here ?

The text format doesn't care about oids. I don't see how it'd be a
problem? Note that some people *intentionally* use different types from
source to target system when logically replicating. So you can't rely on
the target table's types under any circumstance.

I think you really have to use the textual type which we already write
out (cf logicalrep_write_typ()) to call the binary input functions. And
you can send only data as binary that's from builtin types - otherwise
there's no guarantee at all that the target system has something
compatible. And even if you just assumed that all extensions etc are
present, you can't transport arrays / composite types in binary: For
hard to discern reasons we a) embed type oids in them b) verify them. b)
won't ever work for non-builtin types, because oids are assigned
dynamically.

> > I think if we were to add binary output - and I think we should - we
> > ought to only accept a patch if it's also used in core.
> >
>
> Certainly; as not doing so would make my work completely irrelevant for my
> purpose.

What I mean is that the builtin logical replication would have to use
this on the receiving side too.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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