Re: accounting for memory used for BufFile during hash joins

From: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: accounting for memory used for BufFile during hash joins
Date: 2019-05-08 13:34:38
Message-ID: 20190508133438.7nfzyioihjcvkjwi@development
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On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 05:43:56PM -0700, Melanie Plageman wrote:
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:59 AM Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 04:28:36PM +1200, Thomas Munro wrote:
> >On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:15 PM Tomas Vondra
> ><tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 01:48:40PM +1200, Thomas Munro wrote:
> >> Switching to some other algorithm during execution moves the goal
> posts
> >> to the next galaxy, I'm afraid.
> >
> >The main problem I'm aware of with sort-merge join is: not all that is
> >hashable is sortable.  So BNL is actually the only solution I'm aware
> >of for problem B that doesn't involve changing a fundamental thing
> >about PostgreSQL's data type requirements.
> >
>
> Sure, each of those algorithms has limitations. But I think that's
> mostly
> irrelevant to the main issue - switching between algorithms
> mid-execution.
> At that point some of the tuples might have been already sent sent to
> the
> other nodes, and I have no idea how to "resume" the tuple stream short
> of
> buffering everything locally until the join completes. And that would be
> rather terrible, I guess.
>
> What if you switched to NLJ on a batch-by-batch basis and did it before
> starting
> execution of the join but after building the inner side of the hash
> table.  That
> way, no tuples will have been sent to other nodes yet.
>

Interesting idea! I think you're right doing it on a per-batch basis
would solve that problem. Essentially, if all (or >95%) of the tuples
has the same hash value, we could switch to a special "degraded" mode
doing something like a NL. At that point the hash table benefits are
lost anyway, because all the tuples are in a single chain, so it's not
going to be much slower.

regards

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Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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