Re: [HACKERS] WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?

From: Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>
To: robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com
Cc: noah(at)leadboat(dot)com, 9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com, andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com, hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi, michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?
Date: 2019-04-04 02:03:20
Message-ID: 20190404.110320.84838706.horiguchi.kyotaro@lab.ntt.co.jp
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Thank you for looking this.

At Wed, 3 Apr 2019 10:16:02 -0400, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote in <CA+TgmoYEST4xYaU10gM=XXeA-oxbFh=qSfy0X4PXDCWubcgj=g(at)mail(dot)gmail(dot)com>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:54 AM Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
> <horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp> wrote:
> > > By using DELETE and INSERT records to implement an UPDATE, you lose the ctid
> > > chain and infomask bits that were present before crash recovery. If that's
> > > okay in these circumstances, please write a comment explaining why.
> >
> > Sounds reasonable. Added a comment. (Honestly I completely forgot
> > about that.. Thanks!) (0006)
>
> If you haven't already, I think you should set up a master and a
> standby and wal_consistency_checking=all and run tests of this feature
> on the master and see if anything breaks on the master or the standby.
> I'm not sure that emitting an insert or delete record is going to
> reproduce the exact same state on the standby that exists on the
> master.

All of this patch is for wal_level = minimal. Doesn't make
changes in other cases. Updates are always replicated as
XLOG_HEAP_(HOT_)UPDATE. Crash recovery cases involving log_insert
or log_update are exercised by the TAP test.

> + * Insert log record. Using delete or insert log loses HOT chain
> + * information but that happens only when newbuf is different from
> + * buffer, where HOT cannot happen.
>
> "HOT chain information" seems pretty vague.

Thanks. Actually I was a bit uneasy with "information". Does the
following make sense?

> * Insert log record, using delete or insert instead of update log
> * when only one of the two buffers needs WAL-logging. If this were a
> * HOT-update, redoing the WAL record would result in a broken
> * hot-chain. However, that never happens because updates complete on
> * a single page always use log_update.

regards.

--
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center

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