Re: [HACKERS] proposal: schema variables

From: Arthur Zakirov <a(dot)zakirov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>
To: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Dean Rasheed <dean(dot)a(dot)rasheed(at)gmail(dot)com>, Fabien COELHO <coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr>, Gilles Darold <gilles(dot)darold(at)dalibo(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] proposal: schema variables
Date: 2018-09-19 12:53:25
Message-ID: 20180919125324.GA31127@zakirov.localdomain
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 02:08:04PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> Unfortunately we cannot to use standard
> "SET" command, because it is used in Postgres for different purpose.
> READ|WRITE are totally clear, and for user it is another signal so
> variables are different than tables (so it is not one row table).
>
> I prefer current state, but if common opinion will be different, I have not
> problem to change it.

I see. I grepped the thread before writhing this but somehow missed the
discussion.

> The content of variables is not transactional (by default). It is not
> destroyed by rollback. So I have to calculate with rollback too. So the
> most correct syntax should be "ON COMMIT ON ROLLBACK RESET" what is little
> bit messy and I used "ON TRANSACTION END". It should be signal, so this
> event is effective on rollback event and it is valid for not transaction
> variable. This logic is not valid to transactional variables, where ON
> COMMIT RESET has sense. But this behave is not default and then I prefer
> more generic syntax.
> ...
> So I see two different cases - work with catalog (what is transactional)
> and work with variable value, what is (like other variables in programming
> languages) not transactional. "ON TRANSACTION END RESET" means - does reset
> on any transaction end.
>
> I hope so I explained it cleanly - if not, please, ask.

I understood what you mean, thank you. I thought that
{ ON COMMIT DROP | ON TRANSACTION END RESET } parameters are used only
for transactional variables in the first place. But is there any sense
in using this parameters with non-transactional variables? That is when
we create non-transactional variable we don't want that the variable
will rollback or reset its value after the end of a transaction.

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Arthur Zakirov
Postgres Professional: http://www.postgrespro.com
Russian Postgres Company

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