Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: reloption to prevent VACUUM from truncating empty pages at the end of relation
Date: 2018-04-19 20:38:02
Message-ID: 20180419203802.hqrb4o2wexjnb2ft@alvherre.pgsql
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Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2018-04-19 16:56:59 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > Michael Paquier wrote:
> >
> > > Then, let's consider the beginning of the first commit fest of v12 as
> > > judgement. Implementing radix tree for shared buffers is a long-term
> > > project, which has no guarantee to get merged, while a visibly-simple
> > > reloptions which helps in some cases...
> >
> > In the scenario we studied, the truncations were causing periodic
> > hiccups which were quite severe.
>
> Was that with the current logic of breaking the truncations into smaller
> chunks?

Yes -- it was with 9.5.7. I was skeptical about that stuff working
correctly for a toast table, BTW, but I didn't manage to prove anything.

> > The truncations were completely useless anyway because the table
> > grew back to the original size daily (a few dozen GBs I think).
> > That was a lot of unnecessary work, and under exclusive lock no
> > less.
>
> FWIW, One goal of the different buffer mapping implementation is to also
> make both increasing and decreasing size of relations possible without
> an AEL.

Oh, that sounds very useful.

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Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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