Re: [PATCH] A hook for session start

On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 06:37:57PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> 2017-10-06 6:48 GMT+02:00 Nico Williams <nico(at)cryptonector(dot)com>:
> > On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 04:52:09AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > > Current TEMP tables, if you do it for any session has pretty significant
> > > overhead - with possible risk of performance lost (system catalog
> > bloat).
> >
> > Because of the DDLs for them?
>
> yes - pg_attribute, pg_class, pg_stats are bloating - and when these tables
> are bloated, then DDL is slow.

:(

> > No, I want GLOBAL TEMP tables.
>
> me too :) - and lot of customer and users.

> I though about it, but I have other on my top priority. GLOBAL TEMP TABLE
> is on 90% unlogged table. But few fields should be session based instead
> shared persistent - statistics, rows in pg_class, filenode.

Unlogged tables don't provide isolation between sessions the way temp
tables do, so I don't see the connection.

But the necessary components (temp heaps and such) are all there, and I
suspect a PoC could be done fairly quickly. But there are some
subtleties like that FKs between GLOBAL TEMP and persistent tables must
not be allowed (in either direction), so a complete implementation will
take significant work.

The work looks like:

- add syntax (trivial)

- add new kind of persistence (lots of places to touch, but it's mostly
mechanical)

- redirect all references to global temp table contents to temp
heaps/indexes/whatever

- add logic to prevent FKs between persistent and global temp tables

- what else?

> When we talked about this topic, there are two issues:
>
> a) probably not too hard issue - some internal data can be in session sys
> cache.
>
> b) the session sys data should be visible on SQL level too (for some tools
> and consistency) - it is hard task.

Can you expand on this?

Nico
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