Re: Time to up bgwriter_lru_maxpages?

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Time to up bgwriter_lru_maxpages?
Date: 2017-02-02 01:41:11
Message-ID: 20170202014111.vf5mgw6sxit5pkwr@alap3.anarazel.de
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On 2017-02-01 20:38:58 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > On 2017-02-01 20:30:30 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> >> > On 2016-11-28 11:40:53 -0800, Jim Nasby wrote:
> >> >> With current limits, the most bgwriter can do (with 8k pages) is 1000 pages
> >> >> * 100 times/sec = 780MB/s. It's not hard to exceed that with modern
> >> >> hardware. Should we increase the limit on bgwriter_lru_maxpages?
> >> >
> >> > FWIW, I think working on replacing bgwriter (e.g. by working on the
> >> > patch I send with a POC replacement) wholesale is a better approach than
> >> > spending time increasing limits.
> >>
> >> I'm happy to see it replaced, but increasing the limits is about three
> >> orders of magnitude less work than replacing it, so let's not block
> >> this on the theory that the other thing would be better.
> >
> > I seriously doubt you can meaningfully exceed 780MB/s with the current
> > bgwriter. So it's not like the limits are all that relevant right now.
>
> Sigh. The patch is harmless and there are 4 or 5 votes in favor of
> it, one of which clearly states that the person involved has hit seen
> it be a problem in real workloads. Do we really have to argue about
> this?

I don't mind increasing the limit, it's harmless. I just seriously doubt
it actually addresses any sort of problem.

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