Re: [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov(at)google(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Cynthia Shang <cynthia(dot)shang(at)crunchydata(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal
Date: 2017-01-04 07:32:28
Message-ID: 20170104073228.45j4lfadafsxklka@alap3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2017-01-03 10:37:08 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Vladimir Rusinov (vrusinov(at)google(dot)com) wrote:
> > I think I +1 on this.
> > I've did a github search on these function names and there is a lot of code
> > that use them. E.g. there is 8.5k hits for pg_last_xlog_location
> > <https://github.com/search?q=pg_last_xlog_replay_location&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93>;
> > a lot of them a forks and copy-pastes, but still, that's quite a lot. Let's
> > keep the aliases around for couple of versions after which hopefully a lot
> > of the code will be updated.
>
> And there's 12k hits for pg_xlog.

> If we do that, we'll just end up with exactly the same question about
> removing them and the same amount of code breakage in a few years. I
> don't see how that is really helping anyone.

Meh^2. The cost of having pg_xlog was that people lost their
data. Hence their was motivation of changing things. The cost of having
some function aliases is, what, a pg_proc line? If we end up carrying
them forever, so what?

> If we really feel that this is the only thing between 9.6 and 10 that'll
> cause problems for some serious amount of code and we don't expect to
> change the function APIs anytime in the near future then perhaps we
> could keep aliases, *document* them, and treat them as full functions
> just like the regular ones.

I think we've been far to cavalier lately about unnecessarily breaking
admin and monitoring tools. There's been pg_stat_activity backward
incompat changes in most of the last releases. It's a *PAIN* to develop
monitoring / admin tools that work with a number of releases. It's fine
to cause that pain if there's some considerable benefit (e.g. not
triggering data loss seems like a case for that, as imo is unifying
configuration), but I don't see how that justifying breaking things
gratuitously. Just renaming well known functions for a minor bit of
cleanliness seems not to survive a cost/benefit analysis.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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