Re: Lets (not) break all the things. Was: [pgsql-advocacy] 9.6 -> 10.0

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Lets (not) break all the things. Was: [pgsql-advocacy] 9.6 -> 10.0
Date: 2016-06-21 15:34:55
Message-ID: 20160621153455.GG24184@momjian.us
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 08:19:55AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> >> No, not really. Once you let write transactions into the new cluster,
> >> there's no way to get back to the old server version no matter which
> >> option you used.
> >
> > Yes, there is, and it is documented:
> >
> > If you ran <command>pg_upgrade</command> <emphasis>without</>
> > <option>--link</> or did not start the new server, the
> > old cluster was not modified except that, if linking
> > started, a <literal>.old</> suffix was appended to
> > <filename>$PGDATA/global/pg_control</>. To reuse the old
> > cluster, possibly remove the <filename>.old</> suffix from
> > <filename>$PGDATA/global/pg_control</>; you can then restart the
> > old cluster.
> >
> > What is confusing you?
>
> I don't think I'm confused. Sure, you can do that, but the effects of
> any writes performed on the new cluster will not be there when you
> revert back to the old cluster. So you will have effectively lost
> data, unless you somehow have the ability to re-apply all of those
> write transactions somehow.

Yes, that is true. I assume _revert_ means something really bad
happened and you don't want those writes because they are somehow
corrupt.

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