Re: WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?
Date: 2015-07-03 22:32:16
Message-ID: 20150703223216.GO3291@awork2.anarazel.de
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-hackers

On 2015-07-03 19:26:05 +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2015-07-03 19:02:29 +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> > Maybe I'm just daft right now (35C outside, 32 inside, so ...), but I'm
> > right now missing how the whole "skip wal logging if relation has just
> > been truncated" optimization can ever actually be crashsafe unless we
> > use a new relfilenode (which we don't!).
>
> We actually used to use a different relfilenode, but optimized that
> away: cab9a0656c36739f59277b34fea8ab9438395869
>
> commit cab9a0656c36739f59277b34fea8ab9438395869
> Author: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
> Date: Sun Aug 23 19:23:41 2009 +0000
>
> Make TRUNCATE do truncate-in-place when processing a relation that was created
> or previously truncated in the current (sub)transaction. This is safe since
> if the (sub)transaction later rolls back, we'd just discard the rel's current
> physical file anyway. This avoids unreasonable growth in the number of
> transient files when a relation is repeatedly truncated. Per a performance
> gripe a couple weeks ago from Todd Cook.
>
> to me the reasoning here looks flawed.

It looks to me we need to re-neg on this a bit. I think we can still be
more efficient than the general codepath: We can drop the old
relfilenode immediately. But pg_class.relfilenode has to differ from the
old after the truncation.

In response to

Responses

Browse pgsql-hackers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Tom Lane 2015-07-03 22:38:37 Re: WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?
Previous Message Tom Lane 2015-07-03 22:21:09 Re: Idea: closing the loop for "pg_ctl reload"