Re: Additional role attributes && superuser review

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Adam Brightwell <adam(dot)brightwell(at)crunchydatasolutions(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Petr Jelinek <petr(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Additional role attributes && superuser review
Date: 2015-01-26 19:06:05
Message-ID: 20150126190605.GX3854@tamriel.snowman.net
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* Robert Haas (robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com) wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > On 2015-01-26 13:47:02 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> >> Right. We already have a role attribute which allows pg_basebackup
> >> (replication). Also, with pg_basebackup / rolreplication, your role
> >> is able to read the entire data directory from the server, that's not
> >> the case with only rights to run pg_start/stop_backup.
> >>
> >> In conjunction with enterprise backup solutions and SANs, which offer
> >> similar controls where a generally unprivileged user can have a snapshot
> >> of the system taken through the SAN interface, you can give users the
> >> ability to run ad-hoc backups of the cluster without giving them
> >> superuser-level access or replication-level access.
> >
> > I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, but the thread is awfully
> > long already. But what's actually the point of having a separate
> > EXCLUSIVEBACKUP permission? Using it still requires full file system
> > access to the data directory, so the additional permissions granted by
> > replication aren't really relevant.
>
> That's not necessarily true. You could be able to run a command like
> "san_snapshot $PGDATA" without necessarily having the permissions to
> inspect the contents of the resulting snapshot. Of course somebody
> should be doing that, but in accord with the principle of least
> privilege, there's no reason that the account running the unattended
> backup needs to have those rights.

Right! You explained it more clearly than I did.

Thanks!

Stephen

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