From: | Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Hiroshi Inoue <inoue(at)tpf(dot)co(dot)jp>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: narwhal and PGDLLIMPORT |
Date: | 2014-10-15 04:53:03 |
Message-ID: | 20141015045303.GA163030@tornado.leadboat.com |
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On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:07:17PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> writes:
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >> I think we're hoping that somebody will step up and investigate how
> >> narwhal's problem might be fixed.
I have planned to look at reproducing narwhal's problem once the dust settles
on orangutan, but I wouldn't mind if narwhal went away instead.
> > However, if "fixing" it comes down to upgrading the seriously old
> > compiler and toolchain on that box (which frankly is so obsolete, I
> > can't see why anyone would want to use anything like it these days),
> > then I think the best option is to retire it, and replace it with
> > Windows 2012R2 and a modern release of MinGW/Msys which is far more
> > likely to be similar to what someone would want to use at present.
If you upgrade the toolchain, you really have a new animal.
> No argument here. I would kind of like to have more than zero
> understanding of *why* it's failing, just in case there's more to it
> than "oh, probably a bug in this old toolchain". But finding that out
> might well take significant time, and in the end not tell us anything
> very useful.
Agreed on all those points.
> Is it likely that anyone is still using Windows 2003 in the field?
> A possible compromise is to update the toolchain but stay on the
> same OS release, so that we still have testing that's relevant to
> people using older OS releases.
Windows Server 2003 isn't even EOL yet. I'd welcome a buildfarm member with
that OS and a modern toolchain.
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