From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: pg_class.relpages/allvisible probably shouldn't be a int4 |
Date: | 2014-05-12 07:15:02 |
Message-ID: | 20140512071502.GC9586@awork2.anarazel.de |
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On 2014-05-12 10:07:29 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 05/12/2014 12:30 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> >>>So if I were to take Andres'
> >>>complaint seriously at all, I'd be thinking in terms of "do we need to
> >>>widen BlockNumber to int64?", not "how do we make this print as
> >>>unsigned?". But I doubt such a proposal would fly, because of the
> >>>negative impact on index sizes.
> >Yea, I am not wild for that either. I guess migrating to a postgres with
> >a larger blocksize is the next step.
>
> A larger block size won't buy you very much time either.
Well. If you mean 'a year or five with that... :)
> We could steal some bits from the OffsetNumber portion of an ItemPointer. If
> we assume the max. block size of 32kb, and that each Item takes at least 16
> bytes, you only need 11 bits for the offset number. That leaves 5 bits
> unused, and if we use them to expand the block number to 37 bits in total,
> that's enough for 1 PB with the default 8k block size.
Hm. That's not a generally bad idea. I think we'll have to do that in a
couple of years. Regardless of better partitioning.
> But I concur that in practice, if you're dealing with 16TB tables, it's time
> to partition.
Well, we need to improve our partitioning for that to be viable for all
relations. Not having usable foreign and unique keys makes it a pita in
some cases.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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