Re: pg_upgrade problem with invalid indexes

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_upgrade problem with invalid indexes
Date: 2012-12-07 14:23:09
Message-ID: 20121207142309.GF31540@momjian.us
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On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 09:16:56AM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On 7 December 2012 04:02, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/06/2012 09:23 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> >> >As soon as pg_dump stopped dumping the CREATE INDEX, pg_upgrade would
> >> >stop creating creating it in the new cluster, and not transfer the index
> >> >files.
> >>
> >> So we'll lose the index definition and leave some files behind? This
> >> sounds a bit messy to say the least.
> >
> > I find it hard to get excited about this being a real problem. If the
> > index has been kept invalid, how come the definition is so valuable?
>
> Agreed.
>
> I don't see the problem... just say "rebuild any invalid indexes
> before you run pg_upgrade".
>
> I don't think pg_upgrade should take the responsibility of fixing
> everything broken before you run an upgrade. Making that rod for our
> backs looks pretty bad here and could get worse if other situations
> come to light.
>
> Maybe it should have a mode where it detects that it would fail if you
> attempted the upgrade...

That's what pg_upgrade --check does, but see my email about in-process
concurrent index builds also causing a failure.

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