Re: Patch for pg_upgrade to turn off autovacuum

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Patch for pg_upgrade to turn off autovacuum
Date: 2011-04-22 21:34:08
Message-ID: 201104222134.p3MLY8g22450@momjian.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
> > I thought some more about this and I don't want autovacuum to run on the
> > old server. This is because pg_dumpall --binary-upgrade --schema-only
> > grabs the datfrozenxid for all the databases at the start, then connects
> > to each database to gets the relfrozenxids. I don't want to risk any
> > advancement of either of those during the pg_dumpall run.
>
> Why? It doesn't really matter --- if you grab a value that is older
> than the latest, it's still valid. As Robert said, you're
> over-engineering this, and thereby introducing potential failure modes,
> for no gain.

Uh, I am kind of paranoid about pg_upgrade because it is trying to do
something Postgres was never designed to do. I am a little worried that
we would be assuming that pg_dumpall always does the datfrozenxid first
and if we ever did it last we would have relfrozenxids before the
datfrozenxid. I am worried if we don't prevent autovacuum on the old
server that pg_upgrade will be more fragile to changes in other parts of
the system.

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