Re: Review remove {join, from}_collapse_limit, add enable_join_ordering

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>
Subject: Re: Review remove {join, from}_collapse_limit, add enable_join_ordering
Date: 2009-07-16 13:18:01
Message-ID: 200907161518.02401.andres@anarazel.de
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On Thursday 16 July 2009 15:13:02 Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
> > The queries on the second reporting schema unfortunately are different.
> > Its the one were I copied the crazy example I attached in the original
> > thread. With geqo=off a good part of the queries used daily use too much
> > memory to plan sensibly and geqo=on outright fails with:
> > "Error: Failed to make a valid plan"
> > on some.
> We're not going to be able to fix this unless you show us examples.
In the other thread I attached a similar to the real schema + example query.
Not enough? And why?

> > Noticeable even some plans which were plannable in reasonable time before
> > now are problematic with enable_join_ordering=false!
> And this even more so --- it doesn't make any sense at all.
Why? With a high from_collapse_limit more subqueries get inlined - before
inlining they get planned separately.

> > So, while I think the changes are principally a good idea, as
> > {from,join}_collapse_limit are a bit confusing options, I personally! do
> > not think geqo is ready for it today, especially as the benefit is
> > relatively small.
> In general I think that any such bugs are there anyway and need to be
> fixed anyway.
Understandable.

Andres

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