Re: Quality and Performance

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Quality and Performance
Date: 2007-11-28 05:34:23
Message-ID: 20071127213423.5ce6ab1d@commandprompt.com
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:15:48 -0500
Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> writes:
> > Josh Berkus wrote:
> >> ... DW operations aren't
> >> really testable without 18 hours to generate data ... but we could
> >> test a lot of things.
>
> > Performance isn't just about humungous DW apps.
>
> Indeed. I think the real take-home lesson from these past few days'
> discussion is that *any* particular view of performance is going to
> miss things that don't affect that case, but do affect somebody else.
>
> What I find most worrisome about the notion of setting up a
> performance-farm is that it will encourage us to optimize with
> blinkers on --- that is, that we will consider only the specific
> cases measured by whatever tests are included in the farm, and will
> happily pessimize other cases. We can ameliorate that a bit if we
> can get a sufficiently wide variety of test cases, but it will always
> be a concern. And dogmatic positions like "only cases involving
> terabytes of data are worth testing" are definitely not going to help.

Well I certainly agree with that, especially considering that although
we do have installations with that type of data, the percentage is
microscopic compared to those that don't.

I think it may be interested to host a series of different test from
pgbench, odbcbench, dbt2, custom scripts etc... to provide trending for
a particular host. That way if one host does 50tps continuously and
then changes one way or the other, there is at least a flag...

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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