Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Extract catalog info for error reporting before an error actually

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Michael Paesold <mpaesold(at)gmx(dot)at>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Extract catalog info for error reporting before an error actually
Date: 2007-10-25 19:44:49
Message-ID: 200710251944.l9PJin423381@momjian.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> writes:
> > Michael Paesold wrote:
> >> Shouldn't we rather support the regular usage pattern instead of the
> >> uncommon one? Users doing a lot of schema changes are the ones who
> >> should have to work around issues, not those using a DBMS sanely. No?
>
> > Unfortunately, doing lots of schema changes is a very common phenomenon.
> > It makes me uncomfortable too, but saying that those who do it have to
> > work around issues isn't acceptable IMNSHO - it's far too widely done.
>
> Well, there's going to be pain *somewhere* here, and we already know
> that users will find the current 8.3 behavior unacceptable. I'd rather
> have autovacuum not make progress than have users turn it off because it
> gets in their way too much. Which I think is exactly what will happen
> if we ship it with the current behavior.

Agreed. If auto-vacuum is blocking activity, it isn't very 'auto' to
me. If vacuum is blocking something, by definition it is a bad time for
it to be vacuuming and it should abort and try again later.

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