Re: Euro PG conference?

On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:20:27AM +0200, Gabriele Bartolini wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I don't want to seem too harsh, but I believe that this whole topic must
> be faced more realistically and rationally.
>
> We can discuss about possible venues of PGDay for years. We are talking
> about PGDay and ignoring the European Group issues (I posted an important
> message yesterday, but nobody - as of now - has replied).

Yeah, that one is on my TODO :-)

> Also, it is not very mature (pardon the term) to propose cities without
> tangible and realistic measures of the scope of the whole organisational
> thing. Believe me, organising a PGDay such as the one in Italy that we did
> last year, is very time consuming and requires lots of work. Thousands of
> man hours and several months of planning. Of course, only if that's the
> goal.

Very true. We must not underestimate that at all - we have to live up to
the high standard that you set for us!

> A city, without a working group and a real project, must not even be
> mentioned. I believe that candidate cities come up with a proposal and then
> we work it out. Proposing cities as we are doing now will take us nowhere.

Yeah, let's not vote on where we want to do it before we have a local
representation actually saying they're capable of dealing with it. So far,
what do we have with that - Prato and Paris?

> We need facts, we need responsabilities, we need people and names that
> are willing to carry them on.
>
> I am a bit concerned about the superficiality that we have all proved so
> far as a group. That's all.

Agreed.

//Magnus