Re: Anyone interested in improving postgresql scaling?

From: Kris Kennaway <kris(at)obsecurity(dot)org>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Mark Kirkwood <markir(at)paradise(dot)net(dot)nz>, Kris Kennaway <kris(at)obsecurity(dot)org>, current(at)FreeBSD(dot)org, performance(at)FreeBSD(dot)org, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Anyone interested in improving postgresql scaling?
Date: 2007-04-10 18:43:33
Message-ID: 20070410184332.GC44123@xor.obsecurity.org
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:23:42AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Mark Kirkwood <markir(at)paradise(dot)net(dot)nz> writes:
> > Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >> If so, then your task is the following:
> >>
> >> Make SYSV semaphores less dumb about process wakeups. Currently
> >> whenever the semaphore state changes, all processes sleeping on the
> >> semaphore are woken, even if we only have released enough resources
> >> for one waiting process to claim. i.e. there is a thundering herd
> >> wakeup situation which destroys performance at high loads. Fixing
> >> this will involve replacing the wakeup() calls with appropriate
> >> amounts of wakeup_one().
>
> > I'm forwarding this to the pgsql-hackers list so that folks more
> > qualified than I can comment, but as I understand the way postgres
> > implements locking each process has it *own* semaphore it waits on -
> > and who is waiting for what is controlled by an in (shared) memory hash
> > of lock structs (access to these is controlled via platform Dependant
> > spinlock code). So a given semaphore state change should only involve
> > one process wakeup.
>
> Correct. The behavior Kris describes is surely bad, but it's not
> relevant to Postgres' usage of SysV semaphores.

Sorry, but the behaviour is real.

Kris

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