Re: Autovacuum on by default?

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Larry Rosenman <ler(at)lerctr(dot)org>
Cc: Jim Nasby <jnasby(at)pervasive(dot)com>, "'Tom Lane'" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "'Jim C(dot) Nasby'" <jim(at)nasby(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Autovacuum on by default?
Date: 2006-08-24 13:38:43
Message-ID: 20060824133843.GB18349@alvh.no-ip.org
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Larry Rosenman wrote:
> Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:08:49AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> "Jim C. Nasby" <jim(at)nasby(dot)net> writes:
> >>> If there's a bunch of activity on a table but stats are reset
> >>> before a vacuum is run on it and then a vacuum is run, the user
> >>> will still be left thinking that the table needs to be vacuumed.
> >>
> >> Except that autovac *won't* vacuum it if the stats have been reset.
> >> So I'm not seeing that there's really a problem in practice.
> >
> > IIRC the stats also include info about regular (manual) vacuums, so
> > the above scenario still applies.
>
> They do. The stats patch as applied captures both autovacuum and manual
> vacuum
> as well as analyze (both from the Autovacuum daemon and manual).

But the original point still remains: if you manually VACUUM a table
that does not have a pgstat entry, the pgstat system will drop the
"vacuum timestamp" message on the floor without recreating the entry.

I think there is a reasonable case for saying that a manual vacuum could
hint pgstat to create the entry instead. On the other hand, if
autovacuum never vacuums a table with no pgstat entry, then you could
just create the pgstat entry in both cases and it would be the same
anyway.

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Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/
The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.

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