From: | Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net> |
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To: | pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Cc: | Chris Travers <chris(at)metatrontech(dot)com>, Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl(at)familyhealth(dot)com(dot)au>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org, Scott Marlowe <smarlowe(at)g2switchworks(dot)com>, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: [GENERAL] Oracle buys Innobase |
Date: | 2005-10-19 04:09:41 |
Message-ID: | 200510190009.41448.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net |
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On Tuesday 18 October 2005 23:44, Chris Travers wrote:
> Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > With no disrespect to PostgreSQL, MySQL has 100x our downloads and
> > installations...
> >
> > Oracle is simply going after by far the biggest open source database
> > player...
>
> As I said, Oracle demonstrated in 2000 that they had already singled
> MySQL out for special competitive treatement. They did this by starting
> to offer db conversion utilities in order to help people migrate from
> MySQL to Oracle. It is not about technical merit, it is about market
> share. We could have the best RDBMS in the world but if we never get
wadda ya mean "could"?" :-)
> enough users to directly threaten them to the level that MS SQL Server
> or DB2 does, we are not the threat that they are, and we are not worth
> the time and expense that research, competitive strategizing, etc. would
> incur. Therefore, I suspect that we are sort of on the back burner
> competitive strategy wise. I.e. competition is on a project-by-project
> basis, and not coordinated as of yet.
>
> There are some things on the horizon that could change this quite
> quickly, however:
>
> 1) Sun is talking about packaging PostgreSQL and distributing it with
> Solaris. This would bring us directly head to head with Oracle in a
> large number of potential installations.
>
> 2) EnterpriseDB's efforts and awards may have attracted some
> attention. This may reinforce the idea that we are a threat.
>
> If this is the case, I bet that Oracle is probably pressuring Sun not to
> distribute PostgreSQL, and if they do anyway, we need to be concerned
> about the beginning of a high-level coordinated strategy targetting us
> specifically. IMO, it is likely to start with one of two things:
>
> 1) PostgreSQL to Oracle database conversion utilities released by
> Oracle (unlikely given extensible languages in PostgreSQL).
they need to "reverse" engineer enterprisedb :-)
> 2) Some sort of FUD campaign on the part of Oracle directed
> specifically at us and not tied to any specific project (fairly likely).
>
look for pointers to lack of benchmarks, patent issues, and great bridge...
those seem to be the most common rehash of fud.
--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
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