Re: [PATCHES] Proposed patch for sequence-renaming problems

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHES] Proposed patch for sequence-renaming problems
Date: 2005-09-29 02:37:45
Message-ID: 200509290237.j8T2bjJ14039@candle.pha.pa.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > I am thinking we should hard-code something in the backend so if the
> > function oid is nextval/currval/setval, we strip off any text casting
> > internally.
>
> NO. No bloody way ... that is far dirtier than any other proposal
> that's been made in this thread. I don't even want to think about
> what strange corner-case semantics that might create.

Well, it would be

if ((oid == xxx || oid == yyy) && cast_exists)
remove cast;

Seems safe to me.

> >> So on the whole I like leaving nextval() as-is and introducing a
> >> separate function next_value(regclass).
>
> > I disagree. nextval() is too embedded in people's thinking to make them
> > change
>
> Why? And what's your evidence for this? You could equally well argue
> that the fact that nextval takes a text argument is too embedded to
> change.

99% of people using nextval think (or don't care) that it is early
binding. I see no reason to re-educate people just to keep nextval() as
late binding.

> > when we have the ability to have it do the _right_ _thing_,
>
> We have no ability to make it do what you think is the right thing,
> at least not without introducing kluges that are certain to come back
> to haunt us.

Well, then, let's leave it all for 8.2 where we can discuss/test and
come up with a plan.

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