Re: FTP Mirrors (was Re: Rewriting the website)

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: "Ricardo Ryoiti S(dot) Junior" <suga(at)netbsd(dot)com(dot)br>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>, "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: FTP Mirrors (was Re: Rewriting the website)
Date: 2004-01-15 00:07:54
Message-ID: 20040114200559.W45512@ganymede.hub.org
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I have nothing against making that change on the mail server, should have
thought of that long ago, but, then again, nobody else has either ...

This is going to involve a massive update on all the mirrors, since
effectively everything will be moving at once ... is this something
everyone agrees should happen, before I do it?

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Ricardo Ryoiti S. Junior wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
> > I think the directory structure should mirror exactly
> > ftp.postgresql.org, so I can go to ftp.xx.postgresql.org and find the
> > same things in the same places. If someone wants to mirror with
> > arbitrary directory structure, they can do that, but since you're going
> > to have to go through the web page anyway they don't have to carry the
> > postgresql.org domain at all.
>
> > Right now, virtually no mirrors follow that rule. Is it so hard to set
> > up virtual hosts on ftp servers?
>
> Regardless of virtualhosts, I think that ftp.postgresql.org's own
> FTP server should be structured like /pub/PostgreSQL/v7.4.1... That's how
> our mirror is setup and I believe that's the cleanest way to have more
> than one mirror in the same server. This is also a good practice, since
> not all (including ours) ftp daemons support virtual hosts.
>
> If we had all directories directly after /pub, there would be more
> than 30 subdirectories, all mixed up: NetBSD, PostgreSQL, etc. Thus,
> setting our mirror just like PostgreSQL's, without virtualhost, would be
> very confusing for our clients.
>
> I agree that every mirror should use the same directory structure,
> but asking everyone to place everything directly after /pub or setting up
> virtualhosts doesn't seem to be plausible, mainly because there're a lot
> of mirrors out there.
>
> So I think that the easiest (and cleanest) way is to change
> postgresql's ftp to /pub/postgresql, asking new and current mirrors to
> adopt that approach. It's much easier than asking for virtualhosts. Not
> just because I wouldn't have to change my setup :) but also because many
> projects with mirrors do that successfully.
> Or, at least a /pub/postgresql link to the actual mirror directory
> could be used...
>
> []s
> Ricardo.
>

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