Re: Requirements for updated site

Let me shortly point out the status of this out of my point of view. However, as I currently don't have the time to actively work on this, feel free to kill my code and implement it as you think ;)

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas Grabmüller

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Von: "Dave Page" <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
An: <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Datum: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 08:37 PM
Betreff: [pgsql-www] Requirements for updated site

> As we have some newcomers (g'day to them :-) ), I'll outline the basic
> requirements for the new site that Andreas has been working on:
>
> 1) Should be multilingual for static and non-static pages.

Nothing has been translated yet (except the layout which has been translated into german: see system/languages/de.php)

> 2) The entire site must be able to be built into static HTML pages that
> can be mirrored.

This is now done using the rebuildcache tool. See tools/rebuildcache

> 3) XHTML/CSS compliant.

This is not yet done. Michael wanted to work on this, but I don't know if he has done anything yet.

> 4) The page width should be variable.

This has already been done.

> 5) All common code should be moved into global files as appropriate.

See the system and system/global directories.

> 6) An interface must be implemented to allow easy translation of pages,
> preferably without the need for the translators to know HTML.

There is something in the admin directory. However I don't know if you can call this "easy" and it's not yet capable of wysiwyg or bbcode.

> That's it in a nutshell. Specifically, with the exception of the width
> thing we do *not* want a new design yet - that can wait until the new
> framework is in place.
>
> Robert has outlined much of the todo stuff already so I won't go over
> that again, but *please* we must coordinate any effort rather than have
> various ppl working on their own on the same problems.
>
> Any questions, email the list, or I'll be on the #postgresql channel on
> irc.freenode.net for a bit tonight (nick: pgsnake) as well as Yahoo
> (pgsnake again).
>
> Regards, Dave.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net]=20
> Sent: 14 January 2004 19:41
> To: Dave Page; Alexey Borzov; pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] A briefing is needed...
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> Dave Page wrote:
> > That's not exactly the case. It can be easily redesigned,=20
> however we=20
> > have other priorities right now which are more difficult - eg.
> > Internationalisation.
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> The internationalization system I see in CVS right now=20
> doesn't look very well thought out. Separating the text from=20
> the context where it will appear will not make the site very=20
> maintainable.=20=20

Hmm, we use gettext on the pgAdmin site (and keep the text in the
context in which it will appear) and I find the site a real pain to
maintain. The old site (although only in English) was much easier to
maintain - it kept content in a db and used a single php script to
display all pages bar a few odd scripts.

> Plus, it doesn't look like this system is=20
> going to have a lot of external tool support for editing,=20
> verifying, and updating translations.=20=20

External like poEdit or kBabel or external like an admin page (as
opposed to updates through psql)? There will certainly be the latter.

Regards, Dave