Re: Win32 native port

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: Joerg Hessdoerfer <Joerg(dot)Hessdoerfer(at)sea-gmbh(dot)com>, Alexander Schulz <alexander(dot)schulz(at)solutionary(dot)de>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee>
Cc: "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Win32 native port
Date: 2003-09-02 22:12:48
Message-ID: 20030902190414.L803@ganymede.hub.org
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'k ... quick and dirty summary .. Bruce will probably add to it, but I
know he's busy ... he's so busy that some of the stuff that we put in
place for the Win32 hasn't even been announced yet :)

First, there was a branch created a couple of weeks ago: WIN32_DEV that
you can access via anon cvs ... this is where work in Win32 is going to
happen until its ready to be brought back into the mainstream, and is
based on code from "date: 2003/08/08 17:17:17" (or thereabouts) ...

Second, we created a list specifically for those wishing to dive into and
work on this: pgsql-hackers-win32 ...

Things are in beta right now, which means that most of the developers time
is being spent hardening up for v7.4, but that doesn't preclude anyone
from diving into that branch and submit'ng patches for it ... in fact, if
you are kind enough to put WIN32_DEV in teh subject on postings to
-patches, I'll happily merge in those patches to free up some of Bruce's
time ...

Right now, I'm the only one on the win32 list, so don't expect my heated
discussions from me ... I'm a Unix guy, don't even have a Win box setup
for compiling :)

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Joerg Hessdoerfer wrote:

> Hi!
>
> After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
> get a status update on said port.
>
> The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
> over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
> success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
> the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
> who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
> stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
>
> Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
> PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
> scenarios.
>
> So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on the
> on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better, some
> hints how to get involved myself(!).
>
> Questions would be:
> - does it compile?
> - on which compiler?
> - which branch in CVS to use?
> - what are the most needed open points?
> - is anyone actively working on those?
>
> ... you get the idea.
>
> Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
> *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>
> Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
> Joerg
> --
> Leading SW developer - S.E.A GmbH
> Mail: joerg(dot)hessdoerfer(at)sea-gmbh(dot)com
> WWW: http://www.sea-gmbh.com
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Alexander Schulz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think this would be interesting for many postgresql users.
>
> The opensource database market is moving where quick at the moment, see
> the sh*t with sapdb and mysql. So it would be very interesting if there
> is a free alternative for windows and linux in the near future, because
> some customers still use windows for some strange reason.
>
> Like Joerg I would like to offer support if needed.
>
> Thanks to everyone working for opensource.
>
> Mit freundlichen Grssen
>
> Alexander Schulz
>
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> [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] Im Auftrag von Joerg
> Hessdoerfer
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. September 2003 12:31
> An: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Betreff: [HACKERS] Win32 native port
>
>
> Hi!
>
> After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really
> like to
> get a status update on said port.
>
> The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was
> talked
> over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with
> initial
> success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp.
> Now,
> the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it.
> Questioners
> who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we
> are
> stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
>
> Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
>
> PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale
> test
> scenarios.
>
> So, I'd just like to ask the people involved to give a small summary on
> the
> on-going(?) efforts, and possibly an open-points list, and even better,
> some
> hints how to get involved myself(!).
>
> Questions would be:
> - does it compile?
> - on which compiler?
> - which branch in CVS to use?
> - what are the most needed open points?
> - is anyone actively working on those?
>
> ... you get the idea.
>
> Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some
> others)
> *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>
> Greetings, and thank you all for a great DB in the first place,
> Joerg
> --
> Leading SW developer - S.E.A GmbH
> Mail: joerg(dot)hessdoerfer(at)sea-gmbh(dot)com
> WWW: http://www.sea-gmbh.com
>
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Hannu Krosing wrote:

> Joerg Hessdoerfer kirjutas T, 02.09.2003 kell 13:30:
> > Hi!
> >
> > After holding my breath for quite a while, it bursts out... I'd really like to
> > get a status update on said port.
> >
> > The reason is, it's seemingly put on hold for me. After this port was talked
> > over on the list, there seemed to be an explosion of effort, with initial
> > success stories. I did read things like 'it compiles on MinGW' etc. pp. Now,
> > the issue seem pretty much dead - no more talk *at all* about it. Questioners
> > who wanted to get into development themselves where brushed off - 'we are
> > stuck there and there, but you can't help anyway' was the tenor.
> >
> > Well, I am very interested in this port, and actually ran the betas from
> > PeerDirect (beta3 mostly), which performed quite well in small-scale test
> > scenarios.
>
> ...
>
> > Anyway, please don't take this mail as an offense, I (and quite some others)
> > *really* just want to know, and perhaps help out!
>
> Currently the whole PGSQL/Win32-for-v7.4-or-perhaps-7.5-or-8.0 saga does
> indeed seem like a microsoftesqe ploy to scare off commercial
> PGSQL/Win32 vendors and keep postgresql an UNIX-only thing ;)
>
> -----------------
> Hannu
>
>
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