Re: Antw: PostgreSQL and Novell Netware

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Ulrich Neumann <U_Neumann(at)gne(dot)de>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Antw: PostgreSQL and Novell Netware
Date: 2002-08-14 04:59:56
Message-ID: 200208140459.g7E4xuZ29955@candle.pha.pa.us
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I am going to take all of your patches, make one mega-patch, then send
it to you for review.

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Ulrich Neumann wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I know all about the story of PostgreSQL for NetWare.
>
> I will tell you the story now:
> First I want to introduce myself:
> I'm a Novell DeveloperNet SysOp and i'm working with the database
> team and the C Library team at Novell in Provo/Utah.
>
> The story starts last year in may at Novell's BrainShare in
> Nice/France.
> I've spoken with several people about the open source community and
> what's missing on NetWare and how this can be combined with Novells
> Directory Service to manage all this stuff. During this time only
> Apache 1.3
> and Tomcat 3.2 was available as open source on NetWare.
>
> The Database area was a totally vacuum and the need for an alternative
> for Oracle was huge.
>
> The result was that I've started to analyze a lot of databases and
> after some
> discussions i've decided to port PostgreSQL because of the features
> and
> stability. Nearly at the same time Novell was working on a new C
> Library
> to offer a C/C++ environment that is as much POSIX/ANSI C/BSD/UNIX98
> compliant as possible. The first step was to enhance this C Library to
> have
> all the functionality I need for PostgreSQL. In November i've been in
> Utah
> to discuss the open source database PostgreSQL and how it's going. The
> result was that there is a small team now working on MySQL and
> PostgreSQL.
>
> I'm the man who drives PostgreSQL and another guy, R.Lyon drives
> MySQL.
> There are several other people supporting us.
>
> Additonal PHP4, mod_perl, JBoss, Motif and several other open source
> initiatives are in the works at Novell. We are all working together to
> have a
> unique solution. Everything is planned to be pushed back to the open
> source
> community. I think that's a great benefit for all these projects.
>
> In march at Novell's Brainshare in Salt Lake City some of these
> projects have
> been demonstrated and nearly everything was functional. Now there is
> much work in stability, performance and in directory integration
> together
> with one unified management tool across all of these open source and
> the commercial projects. At the end all open source projects will be
> stress
> tested in Novell's superlab, the biggest testlab on earth. It's
> possible to
> test on hundreds of different servers and thousands of client
> machines.
>
> The first Beta's of PostgreSQL for NetWare have been sent out last
> week
> to some selected customers and next week a first beta refresh will be
> sent
> out.
>
> It is planned to ship all these open source projects during this
> summer,
> and the new management tool in the 1st half next year.
> Apache2 was the first in that line.
>
> Ulrich Neumann
>
>
> >>> Michael Meskes <meskes(at)postgresql(dot)org> 12.06.2002 16:49:11 >>>
> Hi,
>
> there were several people at my talk asking if PostgreSQL is available
> on Novell Netware. I know I read about someone working on this, but
> didn't follow the thread at all since I do not have any Netware
> servers.
>
> Does anyone out there know more?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Meskes
> Michael(at)Fam-Meskes(dot)De
> Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire!
> Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!
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