Re: string cast/compare broken?

From: Stephan Szabo <sszabo(at)megazone23(dot)bigpanda(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD <ZeugswetterA(at)spardat(dot)at>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee>, Scott Royston <scroyston(at)mac(dot)com>, <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: string cast/compare broken?
Date: 2002-07-12 14:16:58
Message-ID: 20020712071019.P6410-100000@megazone23.bigpanda.com
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On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote:

> "Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD" <ZeugswetterA(at)spardat(dot)at> writes:
> >> If the conversion where varchar(5) --> char(5) then
> >> they would compare equal.
>
> > I am not sure, since, if the varchar stored 'S ' then the comparison
> > to a char 'S' should probably still fail,
>
> There is no comparison of varchar to char:
>
> regression=# select 'z'::char = 'z'::varchar;
> ERROR: Unable to identify an operator '=' for types 'character' and 'character varying'
> You will have to retype this query using an explicit cast
> regression=#
>
> I consider this a feature, not a bug, since it's quite unclear which
> semantics ought to be used.
>
> The cases Scott originally posted all involved various forms of
> coercion to force both sides to be the same type; I'm not sure
> that he quite understood why he had to do that, but perhaps it's now
> becoming clear.
>
> I wonder whether it would be a good idea to stop considering char
> as binary-compatible to varchar and text. Instead we could set
> things up so that there is a coercion function involved, namely
> rtrim(). But that would probably make us diverge even further
> from the spec.
>
> Has anyone studied how other DBMSs handle CHAR vs VARCHAR? Judging
> from the number of questions we get on this point, I have to wonder
> if we are not out of step with the way other systems do it.

I don't think it's just a CHAR vs VARCHAR issue. AFAICT the spec defines
all of this in terms of the collations used and there are (imho arcane)
rules about converting between them for comparisons and operations.

Technically I think varcharcol=charcol *is* illegal if we are
saying that char has a collation with PAD SPACE and varchar
has a collation with NO PAD, because they're different collations
and character value expressions from column reference are implicit
and that doesn't allow comparison between two different collations.
Of course I could also be misreading it.

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