Re: I am being interviewed by OReilly

pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us (Bruce Momjian) wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
>> If you doubt that fact, you need to read the archives for awhile to
>> get a sense of how this project is organized. If the steering
>> committee (the core six) decide against something, then that
>> something _does_not_happen_. End of story. This is not a
>> democracy. It is an oligarchy. Marc is one of the six oligarchs,
>> so _Deal_with_it_. Bruce, another of the core six, has to an
>> extent agreed with some of the difficulty of the current name. But
>> how have the rest weighed in? Up until the last portions of this
>> thread I might have agreed with you to an extent. But after I
>> weighed the difficulty of actually pulling off a name change, I am
>> dead set against it. It's too much effort for too little gain.
>
> I don't think you can just "shut down" a discussion about a name
> change. Some good things are coming out of is, such as adding "also
> called 'postgres'" to some of our documentation, and properly
> mapping postgres.org/com to postgresql.org.
>
> I think there is room for an "also called postgres" push among our
> users and for marketing. Oracle is changing the name of their
> server all the time to position it for marketing so having a
> secondary name doesn't hurt. Our _official_ name is PostgreSQL.
>
> (I personally voted for 'tigres' at the time we chose PostgreSQL.)

Hear, hear!

This is a _wonderful_ thing.

Note that Netscape Navigator has been spelled many ways over the
years, "but is always pronounced `Mozilla.'"

While 'tigres' sounds quite nice, and strikes me as an attractive
option were things open to a _completely_ new name, it hasn't the
merit "postgres" has of:
a) Being a historical name, and
b) Being highly similar to the current name.

There's NOTHING wrong with having a "legal name" as well as an
"operating as" name; companies do that _all the time_.

And if there are 20 places that say "It's officially spelled
PostgreSQL, but you can _pronounce_ that 'p\O\st-"gres', and here's
the MP3 of Bruce saying it," that can cope with the situation nicely.

I have no problem with the "PostgreSQL" _spelling_, but how it sounds
_is_ important, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect to do the
"Cliff Richard" thing where the famous British pop star coined a name
specifically so that he could regularly remind interviewers "No, no,
not `Cliff Richards,' it's `Cliff Richard.' No 's' on the end!"

Consider the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series. The first three
books are _tremendously_ more popular than the later sequels, and I
believe that is the result of them having been first 'honed' by being
presented as radio plays. They actually _sound_ better than they
"read." In contrast, later volumes like _So Long and Thanks for All
the Fish_ never were on radio, and read _very_ differently,
unfortunately not as nicely.
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