Re: TOAST performance (was Re: [GENERAL] Delete Performance)

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "P(dot)J(dot) \"Josh\" Rovero" <rovero(at)sonalysts(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: TOAST performance (was Re: [GENERAL] Delete Performance)
Date: 2001-11-17 02:44:22
Message-ID: 200111170244.fAH2iNx18520@candle.pha.pa.us
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> Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > Could we add code to detect a partial write when we recover from one
> > using WAL so we can know if these partial writes are ever
> > happening?
>
> What's your point? It clearly *can* happen during power-failure
> scenarios. All the monitoring in the world won't disprove that.

My point is uh, um, eh, I think it is a very important point that I
should make ... um. :-)

Seriously, how do OS's handle partial page write, especially to
directories?

Another item I was considering is that INSERT and UPDATE, because they
append to the tables, don't really cause lots of pre-page writes, while
DELETE could affect all page in a table and would require pre-page
writes on all of them.

However, deletes are only marking the XID status of the rows.
Unfortunately I can't think of a way of recording those new XID's in WAL
and preventing a possible failure while the XID's are written to the
page. Can someone help me here?

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